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		<title>Comment on Lent by Lenten Observance &#124; British Religion in Numbers</title>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Attitudes to Poverty by Church Growth and Social Action &#124; British Religion in Numbers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Church Growth and Social Action &#124; British Religion in Numbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Council Prayers by YouGov&#8217;s Religion Barometer &#124; British Religion in Numbers</title>
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		<dc:creator>YouGov&#8217;s Religion Barometer &#124; British Religion in Numbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Skip to content HomeAboutCopyrightNewsFiguresCensus 2001 MapsFindings from the English Church Census 2005Interactive map of religious affiliation in England and Wales, 2001Notes to Charts and TablesNotes to maps (continued)SourcesCommentariesReligious Data and Religious ChangeReligious Statistics in Great Britain: An Historical IntroductionAppendix 1Appendix 2Appendix 3Appendix 4Appendix 5Appendix 6Appendix 7Appendix 8Appendix 9Collected by CommunitiesCollected: OtherFutureStatistics Collected by the StateLinks and ResourcesFrequently Asked QuestionsContactThanks for getting in touchSearch        &#8592; Council Prayers [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Census Christians by Clive Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Linda Woodhead has some interesting observations on the Ipsos MORI poll findings in her ‘Richard Dawkins has uncovered a very British Form of Christianity’ post on THE GUARDIAN’s Comment is Free: CIF Belief blog:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/feb/14/richard-dawkins-british-christianity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Linda Woodhead has some interesting observations on the Ipsos MORI poll findings in her ‘Richard Dawkins has uncovered a very British Form of Christianity’ post on THE GUARDIAN’s Comment is Free: CIF Belief blog:</p>
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		<title>Comment on Church attendance in England by Adrian Dexter</title>
		<link>http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/2010/church-attendance-in-england/comment-page-1/#comment-10285</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for your report it was very helpful and interesting.

most of my insights into church attendance have been based upon the Brierly Report of 2001, so it is good to get some up to date information.

Brierly,in his report stated that South Yorkhire was to County with the lowest church attendance in the UK, at 4.5%. i am not too sure whether your figures are calculated  County by County or my some other measure? i would be interested to know the details.

in your report you state &quot; The ‘bottom ten’ range from 3.6% in South Holland in Lincolnshire, followed by Kirklees, Wychavon (Worcs.), Telford and Wrekin, Doncaster, Fenland, Ashfield (Notts.), Bolsover (Derbyshire), Rotherham (S. Yorks), and North East Lincolnshire, which pulls up the rear at 2.6%. I don’t know enough about these areas to suggest why; some may host high proportions of non-Christians.&quot;

I would be interested if you could send me the Sources for your comments above, as i am unable to locate them on the links given.

i am a Christian and a resident in Rotherham and believe that two contributing factors have led to the low Church attendance in this area. Firstly is because of a high mixture of cultures in Rotherham. (according to the 2001 cenus 96.06% are white - but later research places Ethinic Minorities at 7.5%). 

However, for me the major factor for a lack of Church attendance is the Social demographic of the White population. Rotherham ranks high in social depravation, and the Church has in recent years took on a middle-class feel to it. For many, christianity is not a &quot;working man&#039;s religion&quot; and for a strong working class community such as Rotherham, the way the Church portrays itself is often irrelevant to those it seeks to influence. 

a hundred Years ago it was a different story, the Pentecostal churches in South Yorkshire connected strongly amongst this social group offering a sense of hope and purpose to the Miners and Steelworkers. And a hundred years before that, the methodist church made significant advances amongst the same communities. to this day there are over 20 methodist churches in the borough and at least 7 pentecostal churches.

The men of Yorkshire have a world-wide reputation of being &quot;hard&quot; men, and unless the Church can adapt its approach, or regain the approach it had 100 years ago, it will probably continue to be an irrelevance to the wideer community.

one last point. South Yorkshire has always had a sense of strong community matched by a sense of strong competition. the loyalty levels are very high but when trust is broken, finding forgiveness is almost impossible. i have heard of families who will not speak to certain members of their family because of decisions made 20 years ago.

there is a sense of suspicion and a sense of division across the borough, and that people are very parochial. and to a certain degree in the past, the church has too reflected that same attitude between churches. this is an issue that the Church is only now starting to address. 

whilst we would always like to find someone else to blame for the churces decline. we have to admit that the blame lies solely at the door of the church. 

the future of the church will depend on its ability to communicate its unchanging message effectively to a changing world.

Adrian Dexter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for your report it was very helpful and interesting.</p>
<p>most of my insights into church attendance have been based upon the Brierly Report of 2001, so it is good to get some up to date information.</p>
<p>Brierly,in his report stated that South Yorkhire was to County with the lowest church attendance in the UK, at 4.5%. i am not too sure whether your figures are calculated  County by County or my some other measure? i would be interested to know the details.</p>
<p>in your report you state &#8221; The ‘bottom ten’ range from 3.6% in South Holland in Lincolnshire, followed by Kirklees, Wychavon (Worcs.), Telford and Wrekin, Doncaster, Fenland, Ashfield (Notts.), Bolsover (Derbyshire), Rotherham (S. Yorks), and North East Lincolnshire, which pulls up the rear at 2.6%. I don’t know enough about these areas to suggest why; some may host high proportions of non-Christians.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would be interested if you could send me the Sources for your comments above, as i am unable to locate them on the links given.</p>
<p>i am a Christian and a resident in Rotherham and believe that two contributing factors have led to the low Church attendance in this area. Firstly is because of a high mixture of cultures in Rotherham. (according to the 2001 cenus 96.06% are white &#8211; but later research places Ethinic Minorities at 7.5%). </p>
<p>However, for me the major factor for a lack of Church attendance is the Social demographic of the White population. Rotherham ranks high in social depravation, and the Church has in recent years took on a middle-class feel to it. For many, christianity is not a &#8220;working man&#8217;s religion&#8221; and for a strong working class community such as Rotherham, the way the Church portrays itself is often irrelevant to those it seeks to influence. </p>
<p>a hundred Years ago it was a different story, the Pentecostal churches in South Yorkshire connected strongly amongst this social group offering a sense of hope and purpose to the Miners and Steelworkers. And a hundred years before that, the methodist church made significant advances amongst the same communities. to this day there are over 20 methodist churches in the borough and at least 7 pentecostal churches.</p>
<p>The men of Yorkshire have a world-wide reputation of being &#8220;hard&#8221; men, and unless the Church can adapt its approach, or regain the approach it had 100 years ago, it will probably continue to be an irrelevance to the wideer community.</p>
<p>one last point. South Yorkshire has always had a sense of strong community matched by a sense of strong competition. the loyalty levels are very high but when trust is broken, finding forgiveness is almost impossible. i have heard of families who will not speak to certain members of their family because of decisions made 20 years ago.</p>
<p>there is a sense of suspicion and a sense of division across the borough, and that people are very parochial. and to a certain degree in the past, the church has too reflected that same attitude between churches. this is an issue that the Church is only now starting to address. </p>
<p>whilst we would always like to find someone else to blame for the churces decline. we have to admit that the blame lies solely at the door of the church. </p>
<p>the future of the church will depend on its ability to communicate its unchanging message effectively to a changing world.</p>
<p>Adrian Dexter</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catholic School Statistics, 2011 by Higher proportion of Catholic School students come from deprived areas &#124; eChurch Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/2012/catholic-school-statistics-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-10283</link>
		<dc:creator>Higher proportion of Catholic School students come from deprived areas &#124; eChurch Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on British Social Attitudes Survey, 2010 by Does the Pope shit in the woods? &#124; The Camel&#039;s Hump</title>
		<link>http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/2011/british-social-attitudes-survey-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-10277</link>
		<dc:creator>Does the Pope shit in the woods? &#124; The Camel&#039;s Hump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lords Spiritual by Clive Field</title>
		<link>http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/2012/lords-spiritual/comment-page-1/#comment-10268</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YouGov has returned to the topic in its weekly poll for THE SUNDAY TIMES, for which 1,716 Britons aged 18 and over were interviewed online on 26-27 January 2012. Data tables are available at:

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/5bal45p4b2/YG-Archives-Pol-ST-results-27-290112.pdf

Asked whether 26 senior Church of England bishops should continue to sit and vote in the House of Lords, the results were quite similar to those obtained in the survey for THE SUN: 58% opposed, 24% in favour, and 18% uncertain.

Two additional questions were put. In answer to the first, 65% of adults said that Anglican bishops were out of touch with public opinion, against 21% thinking that they were in touch, and 14% undecided.

In reply to the other question, 66% agreed with Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, that the welfare benefits system ‘traps people into dependency and rewards fecklessness and irresponsibility’. Only 19% disagreed, with 15% don’t knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YouGov has returned to the topic in its weekly poll for THE SUNDAY TIMES, for which 1,716 Britons aged 18 and over were interviewed online on 26-27 January 2012. Data tables are available at:</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/5bal45p4b2/YG-Archives-Pol-ST-results-27-290112.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/5bal45p4b2/YG-Archives-Pol-ST-results-27-290112.pdf</a></p>
<p>Asked whether 26 senior Church of England bishops should continue to sit and vote in the House of Lords, the results were quite similar to those obtained in the survey for THE SUN: 58% opposed, 24% in favour, and 18% uncertain.</p>
<p>Two additional questions were put. In answer to the first, 65% of adults said that Anglican bishops were out of touch with public opinion, against 21% thinking that they were in touch, and 14% undecided.</p>
<p>In reply to the other question, 66% agreed with Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, that the welfare benefits system ‘traps people into dependency and rewards fecklessness and irresponsibility’. Only 19% disagreed, with 15% don’t knows.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religion in Public Life &#8211; Another Poll by Lords Spiritual &#124; British Religion in Numbers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lords Spiritual &#124; British Religion in Numbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Attitudes to Poverty by Ms M.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a political difference here, with the clergy more left wing than others.  In terms of church life, maybe there are generational issues; elderly churchgoers who may have experienced some deprivation in their youth may not see people who have access to big TVs, clean clothes, warm homes, etc. as being truly poor - even if there&#039;s a poverty of aspiration in those homes.  Maybe they feel that with all the state support now available for unemployed or underemployed people it&#039;s more appropriate to talk about dependency or disaffection rather than poverty as such.

The problem with talking about poverty as a structural thing is that the ordinary person can feel helpless to do much about it.  We can change the way we live our lives, spend our money, raise our children, but we really can&#039;t change the tax or banking system.  We can&#039;t prevent footballers earning milllions of pounds.  Many people now have very little faith that politicians can or will do much about these issues, so perhaps the most meaningful option for individuals is to focus on self-help, or to work towards changing attitudes in their local communities, rather than expecting &#039;injustice&#039; or income equality to be abolished by the authorities. 

The perceived decline in public civility and personal security has probably also made people less tolerant of &#039;the poor&#039;.  Sadly, disaffected people often target their own communities - they don&#039;t necessarily go and cause trouble for the rich!  People may feel that that disadvantaged communities once stuck together and respected each other - that&#039;s less true today.  I suppose it&#039;s harder to feel supportive of people if there&#039;s no trust between you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a political difference here, with the clergy more left wing than others.  In terms of church life, maybe there are generational issues; elderly churchgoers who may have experienced some deprivation in their youth may not see people who have access to big TVs, clean clothes, warm homes, etc. as being truly poor &#8211; even if there&#8217;s a poverty of aspiration in those homes.  Maybe they feel that with all the state support now available for unemployed or underemployed people it&#8217;s more appropriate to talk about dependency or disaffection rather than poverty as such.</p>
<p>The problem with talking about poverty as a structural thing is that the ordinary person can feel helpless to do much about it.  We can change the way we live our lives, spend our money, raise our children, but we really can&#8217;t change the tax or banking system.  We can&#8217;t prevent footballers earning milllions of pounds.  Many people now have very little faith that politicians can or will do much about these issues, so perhaps the most meaningful option for individuals is to focus on self-help, or to work towards changing attitudes in their local communities, rather than expecting &#8216;injustice&#8217; or income equality to be abolished by the authorities. </p>
<p>The perceived decline in public civility and personal security has probably also made people less tolerant of &#8216;the poor&#8217;.  Sadly, disaffected people often target their own communities &#8211; they don&#8217;t necessarily go and cause trouble for the rich!  People may feel that that disadvantaged communities once stuck together and respected each other &#8211; that&#8217;s less true today.  I suppose it&#8217;s harder to feel supportive of people if there&#8217;s no trust between you.</p>
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